How can I get two Xbox 360's to be in “open nat” mode behind the same router?
I have two Xbox 360’s, one WiFi and the other wired through the same Linksys E3000 router with DD-WRT (v24-sp2 (04/13/11) std-usb-nas firmware).
Mine (the wired one, though hers has been wired in the past and it didn’t appear to help) always seems to be open (green), and hers is either moderate or closed (oj/red)
Even with the original router firmware I’ve never been able to get both consoles into “open nat” mode, and it makes playing certain games together almost impossible for me and my wife because we can’t seem to get into the same game.
I have uPnP enabled and the DMZ disabled, and some minor port forwarding to allow for a Minecraft server (Ports 25565 and 25566 for a testing copy of the server), but other than that the settings are mainly at their default, on the xbox’s and the router.
Are there any settings I can configure to allow this to work properly?
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To avoid some confusion for future readers, this is what at least got me to two “moderate” NAT’s on the 360’s, which is good enough to find games together:
- Use DHCP on both 360’s
- Specify hostnames for both 360’s (in the advanced tab in network settings)
- In DD-WRT, assign reserved/static IPs for the MAC+hostname of those 360’s outside of your DHCP range
Occasionally somehow we end up with red NAT again, and I turn off both 360’s, clear the uPnP table in DD-wrt, and turn on the one who had red NAT first, then turn the other one on 20 seconds later…
It’s not a permanent fix, but it seems to work decently.
You should be able to get Open NAT on multiple Xboxes as long as your router has a good implementation of UPnP. Microsoft used to have an Xbox LIVE compatible hardware list (archive link) which said:
All of the network hardware in the following lists works with multiple Xbox 360 consoles connected at the same time.
Although not being on the list doesn’t necessarily mean your router won’t work. Obviously MS is testing with OEM firmware. I don’t know how good DD-WRT’s UPnP is – you could perhaps try OpenWRT.
To recap, you should configure your router:
- DMZ off
- port triggering off
- no Xbox-specific ports forwarded
- UPnP on
- DHCP server on – you don’t need address reservation
- NAT enabled obviously (if it’s even optional on your router)
Configure the Xboxes:
- IP Settings: automatic
- it might help to give each Xbox a (different) Host Name under Additional Settings; I don’t know what protocol this setting affects, and the xbox website isn’t telling me.
This answer was originally posted for a question that is probably a duplicate of this one:
Usually, port forwarding issues on the 360 are solved by forwarding ports to a specific IP address. I can tell you from prior research on this topic that you can’t forward ports to multiple IP addresses with one router.
The easiest thing to do would be to forward the appropriate ports to one box, and then put the other box in the DMZ. The DMZ puts the box outside the firewall, which is a security risk. That being said, I’ve had a 360 in the DMZ for years at a time without any issues. This is the current setup I’m using with my Xbox 360 in the DMZ, and my Xbox One with forwarded ports.
Another possible approach would be to get a 2nd router, forward the ports to that router, and put both boxes on the 2nd router. I haven’t been able to get this to work myself, but I’m told it should be possible. This would be more secure, if you can get it to work.
First off, connect to your router, which will normally show up as your default gateway if you run
ipconfig on your computer. Then set your router settings to:
DMZ off port triggering off no Xbox-specific ports forwarded UPnP on DHCP server on - you don't need address reservation NAT enabled (if it's even optional on your router)
(copy paste from above, he had the right idea just didn’t tell you how too get to your router)